FTBM Upgrade
BRooNiE, Sat Mar 22 2014, 06:15PMSomething for you guys to discuss,
Would you rather:
- Wipe the map per upgrade pack, allowing a clean configuration
- Try keep the map per upgrade, which may introduce further bugs/glitches/problems but allow you to keep your builds.
I'll review tomorrow, and look to update FTBM then.
Re: FTBM Upgrade
piggles, Sat Mar 22 2014, 06:53PM
well considering our shared base is currently glitched and what not, a map reset at this junction gets my vote.
but further down the line, provided that the world gen doesn't get overly changed, further resets may not be needed.
piggles, Sat Mar 22 2014, 06:53PM
well considering our shared base is currently glitched and what not, a map reset at this junction gets my vote.
but further down the line, provided that the world gen doesn't get overly changed, further resets may not be needed.
Re: FTBM Upgrade
wjg999, Sat Mar 22 2014, 07:41PM
Since we are still in "Bug testing" I think a map wipe would be better for now, but if we go out of "Bug testing" the map should be kept.
wjg999, Sat Mar 22 2014, 07:41PM
Since we are still in "Bug testing" I think a map wipe would be better for now, but if we go out of "Bug testing" the map should be kept.
Re: FTBM Upgrade
Chista, Sat Mar 22 2014, 07:49PM
I'd really like to end up with a permanent map, but at this point i'd say wipe the map as long as it's beta.
I'd like to eventually be able to make one of my crazy big builds and not squirm in panic at the potential loss of pixels i care way too much about =)
Chista, Sat Mar 22 2014, 07:49PM
I'd really like to end up with a permanent map, but at this point i'd say wipe the map as long as it's beta.
I'd like to eventually be able to make one of my crazy big builds and not squirm in panic at the potential loss of pixels i care way too much about =)
Re: FTBM Upgrade
squaffle, Sat Mar 22 2014, 08:07PM
A little of both; a map reset at this time would be good as we don't know what world gen items have been changed that many versions in. after that I'd say with it being a "recommended" version perhaps we can do our best to keep it?. The thing I don't like about map resets most is when we lose thaum research and infrastructure; if there was 2 weeks warning and we could fill our inv with our stuff to "keep" then wouldn't mind as much.
As a summary, yes for a reset this time but in future perhaps try and keep map ? Depends how stable this rec version proves to be
squaffle, Sat Mar 22 2014, 08:07PM
A little of both; a map reset at this time would be good as we don't know what world gen items have been changed that many versions in. after that I'd say with it being a "recommended" version perhaps we can do our best to keep it?. The thing I don't like about map resets most is when we lose thaum research and infrastructure; if there was 2 weeks warning and we could fill our inv with our stuff to "keep" then wouldn't mind as much.
As a summary, yes for a reset this time but in future perhaps try and keep map ? Depends how stable this rec version proves to be
Re: FTBM Upgrade
BRooNiE, Sat Mar 22 2014, 08:18PM
I think there is a bit of misconception here,
one of the major reasons for resets is due to upgrades on mods, this may mean 100% previous version compatibility may not be in place between upgrades.
Where an item worked fine in version x, may crash the chunk of the map on version y.
BRooNiE, Sat Mar 22 2014, 08:18PM
I think there is a bit of misconception here,
one of the major reasons for resets is due to upgrades on mods, this may mean 100% previous version compatibility may not be in place between upgrades.
Where an item worked fine in version x, may crash the chunk of the map on version y.
Re: FTBM Upgrade
geuis, Sat Mar 22 2014, 10:01PM
Wipe it out.
geuis, Sat Mar 22 2014, 10:01PM
Wipe it out.
Re: FTBM Upgrade
piggles, Sun Mar 23 2014, 12:51AM
i'm hoping that FTBM is nearing a stable state and updates no longer require map resets, but if an update that becomes incompatible, then we would need to evaluate if we need/want that update at the cost of a reset.
piggles, Sun Mar 23 2014, 12:51AM
i'm hoping that FTBM is nearing a stable state and updates no longer require map resets, but if an update that becomes incompatible, then we would need to evaluate if we need/want that update at the cost of a reset.
Re: FTBM Upgrade
draze, Sun Mar 23 2014, 01:17AM
While i'd love to keep my bases i'd prefer a clean slate. We've had problems with updates etc on FTB packs before. Most things were fixed with the update but certain items would glitch out if they were placed prior to updating the mod.
I'm hoping they've fixed issues like that but at least if we inacted "clean slate protocol" it would reduce the likely hood of mod glitches.
Also as per previous mod experiences it usually settled out after a few updates that also included myst world generations. I think version 1.3 of Ultimate was extremely stable. Could be the same scenario here as well.
Who knows what they've been tinkering with in the background.
draze, Sun Mar 23 2014, 01:17AM
While i'd love to keep my bases i'd prefer a clean slate. We've had problems with updates etc on FTB packs before. Most things were fixed with the update but certain items would glitch out if they were placed prior to updating the mod.
I'm hoping they've fixed issues like that but at least if we inacted "clean slate protocol" it would reduce the likely hood of mod glitches.
Also as per previous mod experiences it usually settled out after a few updates that also included myst world generations. I think version 1.3 of Ultimate was extremely stable. Could be the same scenario here as well.
Who knows what they've been tinkering with in the background.
Re: FTBM Upgrade
__RaZoR__, Sun Mar 23 2014, 04:19AM
Can we reset but keep items we want in the inv to carry over please? Also what is ontained in our backpacks, that way we can atleest keep some of our build?
__RaZoR__, Sun Mar 23 2014, 04:19AM
Can we reset but keep items we want in the inv to carry over please? Also what is ontained in our backpacks, that way we can atleest keep some of our build?
Re: FTBM Upgrade
Chista, Sun Mar 23 2014, 10:19AM
Inventory carrying over would be great. Would soften the pain of the loss, just a little.
Im hoping to eventually have a permanent map though, the threat of a wipe in the back of my head doesnt do much for my motivation to play =(
Chista, Sun Mar 23 2014, 10:19AM
Inventory carrying over would be great. Would soften the pain of the loss, just a little.
Im hoping to eventually have a permanent map though, the threat of a wipe in the back of my head doesnt do much for my motivation to play =(
Re: FTBM Upgrade
BRooNiE, Sun Mar 23 2014, 10:37AM
No inventory carry overs, as modded items may also glitch over between upgrades and map wipes.
This notice has also been present since FTBM opened,
http://crazy-fools.co.uk/page.php?28
Clickable link (public beta) under the server ip addresses
BRooNiE, Sun Mar 23 2014, 10:37AM
No inventory carry overs, as modded items may also glitch over between upgrades and map wipes.
This notice has also been present since FTBM opened,
http://crazy-fools.co.uk/page.php?28
Clickable link (public beta) under the server ip addresses
Re: FTBM Upgrade
, Sun Mar 23 2014, 11:31AM
hmm if we can't carry over even just our ME system and storage drives a regular map wiping policy would suck post-beta.
as it stands now, the wipe policy is fine i think as we can experiment with the new tech and destroy the landscape in the process.
, Sun Mar 23 2014, 11:31AM
hmm if we can't carry over even just our ME system and storage drives a regular map wiping policy would suck post-beta.
as it stands now, the wipe policy is fine i think as we can experiment with the new tech and destroy the landscape in the process.
Re: FTBM Upgrade
boriseng, Sun Mar 23 2014, 01:24PM
I'd already accepted that the beta map had to go, so do whatever's necessary.
I hope we can stick with one post-beta map though, and not have to reset again.
boriseng, Sun Mar 23 2014, 01:24PM
I'd already accepted that the beta map had to go, so do whatever's necessary.
I hope we can stick with one post-beta map though, and not have to reset again.
Re: FTBM Upgrade
draze, Sun Mar 23 2014, 02:20PM
It would only be until the mods were stable enough to retain the map during updates. If this mod follows suit from the previous FTB mods we're talking maybe around 1-2 major updates over the course of a few months.
It seems the modders are quite on the ball this time.
draze, Sun Mar 23 2014, 02:20PM
It would only be until the mods were stable enough to retain the map during updates. If this mod follows suit from the previous FTB mods we're talking maybe around 1-2 major updates over the course of a few months.
It seems the modders are quite on the ball this time.
Re: FTBM Upgrade
Soul_UK, Sun Mar 23 2014, 07:37PM
I've only just got onto FTBm, so havn't really found any bugs yet, and have only built a tiny little shack as a base ... so if we can get a more stable version up and running I'm happy for a map wipe ... Just let me blow my hut up first 
Now WHERE did I put my TNT?!? XD
Soul_UK, Sun Mar 23 2014, 07:37PM
I've only just got onto FTBm, so havn't really found any bugs yet, and have only built a tiny little shack as a base ... so if we can get a more stable version up and running I'm happy for a map wipe
... Just let me blow my hut up first Now WHERE did I put my TNT?!? XD
Re: FTBM Upgrade
BRooNiE, Sun Mar 23 2014, 09:13PM
Map has been wiped, server now updating.
BRooNiE, Sun Mar 23 2014, 09:13PM
Map has been wiped, server now updating.
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