Lo Folks,
Can someone tell me the point of the nether? Because I personally would love to build there, but really cannot see the point if it going to get griefed. Several Ideas have been shot down over creating a safe settlement in the nether, due to the argument "Hell should be Hell". Tell me, those who stand by that point, do you actually use the nether, bar occasionally nipping in to get netherrack, soulsand, glowstone and lava?

Now I am not saying that the entire nether should be a pvp free zone, infoact keep almost all of it hell, there are several thousand blocks, in there for you to release your inner griefer , but I stand by the Idea of a spawn safe zone, not huge, but allows people to create some little nether builds in safety and to allow the creation of some public grinders for things like pigmen and ghasts. And to you whose say, hide your builds then, whats the point? The live map reveals your positions immediately and the ability to faintly see the users name box though several blocks makes it impossible and thus useless to try and build secretly in the nether. It really would be a shame to waste an entire map.

Cheers Guys, and Rant over.

The live map for the nether will be coming off soon. Happy secret building

Any chance of a safe public grinder?

Hell SHOULD be Hell. And the Nether does serve a purpose: 1 block traveled in the Nether is 8 blocks traveled in the overworld. This makes a very quick unsafe way for nondonators to travel large distances in a practical manner.

Then why don't we engineer it for speed? We could build a sky-rail through the netherrack and use it for non-donators to travel to pre-destined towns. If hells got a purpose we'd all be Crazy Fools if we didn't use it.

Because hell should be hell. It would be griefed =P and we ARE Crazy Fools. Kinda the whole point of at least 97.326745527% of members being psycho. Proven by science. Also if there was something worth protecting there we would need staff willing to monitor it. And that probably won't happen.

Because hell should be hell. It would be griefed =P and we ARE Crazy Fools. Kinda the whole point of at least 97.326745527% of members being psycho. Proven by science. Also if there was something worth protecting there we would need staff willing to monitor it. And that probably won't happen.

Squippit

We don't have block history for the nether. No point in it since it's okay to grief there. Besides, it takes up a lot of room having to store all the block history of the normal map and the nether.

Well there ya go. Thanks Nathan ^^ Still you're welcome to build your own secret nether rail. Nutter had one on the last map that worked very well.

There probably will be grinders built in the nether once the next version comes out, as nether mobs will be dropping useful items. But, as with all nether builds, it will have to be hidden, and will not be protected by any of the normal laws of the server.

Hell IS hell.

Secret Grinders? Thats gonna be difficult, sounds like a challenge though shame i wount be able to make it public though....

Yeah, secret grinders found will probably be looted and destroyed, in that order.

Is it possible for spawners to be made able to spawn nether mobs so that safe grinders can be created in the overworld?

So people can make gold machines? Now that's just wrong.

Nah, was more after ghasts, but i see what you mean, and an irresponsably placed ghast spawner could cause havoc to the suuroundings

Hell is pointless. The Spawn for hell was so griefed on a previous map that it was disabled. While i understand the mods don't want to moderate it due to the extra effort it would require, i think the "Hell should be hell" is stupid. The type of stuff you get with that attitude is for example people destroying blocks around a portal so that when you enter the nether through a public portal you fall to your death into lava. Thats the type of pointless crap you get with the "Hell should be hell" attitude.

Griefed Hell = No one goes there = Pointless.

Amen to that Stucuk

I disagree...

In previous main Nether maps we had a "no-griefing zone" which comprised of the immediate area around the portal as well as a few specific walkways. Any location past the general portal area was perfectly fine to use.

With unique materials and a means for PvP-type gameplay which the main map lacks, the Nether is hardly useless.

In previous main Nether maps we had a "no-griefing zone" which comprised of the immediate area around the portal as well as a few specific walkways. Any location past the general portal area was perfectly fine to use.

Shrapnel

In the one where Flight made a boat for spawn(For the normal world), Broonie setup a nether spawn made of Bedrock. What happened is a few days later someone whipped out some tnt and blew everything around it up. Including the walkways which people were not allowed to grief(Which didn't stop them). The public portal was then closed.

With unique materials and a means for PvP-type gameplay which the main map lacks, the Nether is hardly useless.

Shrapnel

People will go there for materials they need, but they are not likely to stay longer than they need to be. So basically you just need to make a trip there once a month or less. Other than getting a few materials it has no real use. Which is why its pointless, because most people will choose not to enter the nether except on rare occasions.

Most people don't do PVP, they build. Even if they did, the main problem with lawless areas is that people can just TNT them to hell or pour lava everywhere to ruin an area.

just make the mob grinder public and everyone is free to use em, if they grief them then theyre missing out on all the gowld

Actually, the Nether had been cleaned up quite a bit that last map. I know Conathan had done a lot of work (not sure who else) making some nice pathways. Those stayed for quite some time, and were rarely griefed.

The worst part of the nether was about that first week or so that it was open. All hell broke loose then.

Yeah, jighello took ALL of my stuff then, including all of my diamond

Yeah, jighello took ALL of my stuff then, including all of my diamond

JamEngulfer221

Unfortunately jiggy doesn't take credit card

Yeah, jighello took ALL of my stuff then, including all of my diamond

JamEngulfer221

Don't take diamond into the nether.

Problem solved.

Yeah, jighello took ALL of my stuff then, including all of my diamond

JamEngulfer221

*Shakes fist at Jighello* ... Damn you Jiggy!!!

The nether is now removed from the cartograph.