13 years ago
												Fri Nov 04 2011, 11:49PM
												
										
										 
										
											
											
											
												
												I hate hackers who hack servers for fun
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												what is going on with the server. It keeps shuting down and we are getting a bunch of hackers. Droid no likey
												
											
										 
										
										
										
										
										
									
									
									
										
										
											
											
											
												
												Server was under a form of Dos attack earlier. Side note, please don't have full caps titles.
												
											
										 
										
										
										
										
										
									
									
									
										
										
											
											
											
												
												They're not hackers. They couldn't hack their way out of a paper bag.
												
											
										 
										
										
										
										
										
									
									
									
										
										
											
											
											
												
												Sorry guys for the capslock title, i was just worried that they could get all of our private stuff and was worried for other users. Im not the worlds best at these sort of things and i overreacted when people mentioned hackers. If its not a hackers then what is it?
												
											
										 
										
										
										
										
										
									
									
									
										
										
											
											
											
												
												So theres no risk to our personal items on the computer, eg passwords?
												
											
										 
										
										
										
										
										
									
									
									
										
										
											
											
											
												
												Thats right powelly.
They try to overload the server by essentially spamming it with requests. Have a read of the Wikipedia article Sample posted, that should give you more info.
												
											
										 
										
										
										
										
										
									
									
									
										
										
											
											
											
												
												Nope.
A dos attack is akin to get phone calls from someone every 2 seconds, eventually you will break under the load and rip the phone cable out of the wall, however that stops legit callers accessing you.
That is all.
												
											
										 
										
										
										
										
										
									
									
									
										
										
											
											
											
												
												Heres an extract of what a DOS is from Cisco Networking Simplified:
"DoS attacks provide a means for bringing down a network without having to gain internal access. DoS attacks work by flooding a network device or application server with bogus traffic."
What we had was a DDoS
"Distributed DoS (DDoS) is coordinated DoS attacks from multiple sources. DDoS is more difficult to block because it uses multiple, changing source IP addresses that are hard to distinguish from legimate IP addresses."
As a heads up, we do have measures in place to help squash DDoS attacks through a filter using packet inspection, it just takes a while for the server to realise its being attacked, and then to drop those packets. Some attacks are quicker and easier to spot that others by the algorithm it uses. All these attacks do get reported to the relevent authority, and action has already been taken under a couple of individuals.
												
											
										 
										
										
										
										
										
									
									
									
										
										
											
											
											
												
												I wonder if we could port our server to dos...  it would have a lower memory footprint.  I always wanted to run Freedos [www.freedos.org] on a server.
												
											
										 
										
										
										
										
										
									
									
									
										
												
												
												13 years ago
												Tue Nov 08 2011, 03:05AM
												
										
										 
										
											
											
											
												
												The problem with MS Dos (I can't comment on FreeDos) was that you had to write your own code to deal with things like Graphics/Sound/Networking/Etc. Which is why Windows was born so that programmers could just focus on writing the application rather than common generic stuff.
So if FreeDos doesn't "Solve" that problem then you would have to write your own Networking code which can interface with your network card/router.
Oh and you would also have to make Java for it if noone else has.