Please be advised that FTBm will be recieving an update.

This may or may not include a map wipe if it can be helped however due to some of the mods/machinery being updated a map wipe may be required.

With that, if you could please post whether you would like the map to be reset, or for us to attempt to 'keep' it (along with any bugs that may come with that)

edit:

I know how painful that is, but I vote for a map reset.. We just had too many little bugs and glitches that give lag and cause map instability already.. (we still have some of that smoke in old base that made us waste 3-4 full days fixing it)
In the long run it's always better to have an updated map and we'll probably be thankful later, but it hurts in the short run cause of all the stuff we acquired and built..

I would also suggest, could map be generated in Biomes 'o Plenty setting? BoP is already in game, but we get those biomes only in mystcraft ages since it's not generated in Overworld in default setting..

Note that this doesn't change the mod list, any config files or anything similar, just the way map was generated..

I would like to hear others thoughts on this?

ps Sorry for a small digression, but if there is still a possibility of mod pack change, changing Unleashed or something like that, I have been testing and watching vids for the Attack of The B-team mod pack and it is very fun and interesting.. It bring up a new and different multiplayer experience.. Mixing mods like Witchery, Galacticraft, Archimedes ships, Flan's planes and Mecha's etc etc Does any one else have experience with this pack or any thoughts about it?

Vote: Map wipe, personally i find it best to start fresh and remove the "junk"

Vote: Map wipe

Vote: Map Wipe

we agreed to be part of the beta and that means accepting a map reset for a more stable environment, so as much as it pains me, I vote upgrade and map reset

edit: also it needs to be done fast like a bandaid, I promise I can take the pain!!!

Dont worry piggles, we'll be very gentle and slow for you. We know how sensitive you can be lol

Yeah Broons has been working on the site, as this was suggested late last night it will be done when he can

edit: also it needs to be done fast like a bandaid, I promise I can take the pain!!!

piggles

hey u stole my line! lol

Vote: Map Wipe

t'is a shame, having practically just finished our new tower...but ah well

I'd like to see the map preserved if it can be helped, but if it can't I will accept a map wipe.

Maybe if it does ill be able to get some machines up before the map wipes again...

Well hopefully they've been fixing some of the nasty bugs and we can progressively keep the map for longer at a time.

UPDATE :

--Votes--

Wipe - 7
Keep - 1

In heinsight i should have put this up as a poll. But heh, the flu does funny things to a zzzzZZZzZzzzzZzz......*blink*... what was i saying again?

You were saying that you were going to release us from from these testing chambers, also im in favor of wipe as the amount of troubles that keep returning after a rollback are still many, if next map is "stable" at the time of an update try to keep it during the update and if problems arise a wipe that way we still have a chance at retaining stuff.

if next map is "stable" at the time of an update try to keep it during the update

wjg999

Agreed wjg.

Regular wipes kill the buzz a bit for me; no point building a nice base or infrastructure if it's going to be deleted after it's built.
On that note any way we can bring things from this world without there being item number issues ? (Basic power setup and some Basic ME stuff & machines ?). Some other things take a tremendous amount of time to get going before they become fun (bee breeding for instance)

Not really as the mods get updated there may be conflicting ID's, slight differences in blocks, updates that change the way a block interacts all small things there but there can be many unknowns during updates from this stage. We learned whilst doing FTB ultimate that world changes often led to glitches

Besides we were all warned before starting FTBmonster that it was in beta stage and may/may not need to have map wipes. So really any large scale building was at the risk of this.

Dont get me wrong i do feel the same way about keeping items to take over but there are just too many uknown variables with this many mod packs. 1 kept item may bug out we just dont really know.

So it's either update and wipe. Or update and keep the map and potential glitches that come along with it.

Broonie could go into more detail as he knows more of how twitchy these mods have been on the backend.

On WjG's note - This map has been unstable. Mod's have been causing glitches to the point of chunks needing to be regenerated and players game files wiped to put them back at spawn and away from what's causing the server crashes.

I hope in the next update they've fixed the taint and rainbow trees issue.

it's painful, we have all worked hard, stocked up lots of stuff, but you should have used this time to test your builds, experiment etc.. that's what beta is for.. also it wouldn't be fair to all players if we could keep stuff from previous map..

I see Draze repeating the same sentance over and over again..
1. Everyone who played on FTBm sever is considered to have read and agreed to beta testing rules (and agreed not to whine about resets etc )
2. If we don't get a map reset, you keep this one and you build lots and lots more and then one day a horrible glitch/bug corrupts the map and you lose everything again.. At least if we get a new map there will be less chance of that happening and better stability overall.. So it's for the greater good for us all..
No body wants it, but it's the right thing to do..

Mostly yeah, We really are playing with a massive "unknown" with this pack. The fact that something as simple as a tree was causing server crashes is quite nuts. We dont really know if this next patch will improve on performance or not but we have to try if we want to keep playing modded.

The only ones i really "whine" about are the pack devs. It seems like they are mostly ADHD kids who can't keep their eyes off new shineys. In the past what? 6 months?.. we've gone from FTB Ulti > FTB unleashed/Unchained > Horizon > Monster... It's quite daunting to think they really get anything "stable".

Also in this pack we can thank GregTech for a lot of the conflicting Item ID's etc as he has taken over a few mods such as Inustrial craft. With that comes some of the old FTB ulti glitches due to some of his rather "unique" scripting.

But i digress. The main vote stands -

Keep the map and update (May come with glitches)
Wipe the map and update (May come with different glitches)

Due to some of the mod updates the first selection has a possible higher chance of problems but like i keep saying this is an unknown area hence the vote.

Its mostly odd that the trees only started crashing this update, since the last me and WJG were also near/in a rainbow forest but we never crashed.

Vote: Map reset and update.

I've only managed to find about 5 diamonds on this map, so it's gotta be dodgy

Plus my base is small and boring - time for a fresh start (now I know vaguely what I'm doing on FTBm)

Vote Update:

Wipe - 8
Keep - 2

I have 2 heads so I get 2 votes..
-wipe - 9
-keep - 2
lol jk
IC2 has pretty much became a useless mod and could almost be removed since other mods do most of the stuff and better..
I wanted to ask, since Draze tested Horizon and it was too glitchy, was is it more unstable than this? Maybe consideration? Just wanna know..
As for the Rainbow forest, my lab and old old umbrella base are near one and Taint has devastated us.. It causes a lot of "Buffer overflow" error for a lot of ppl near Taint..
Now we moved the base (3 times, 4 if you count the newest Draze's Umbrella lava cube), but I managed to clear most taint there and I'm still not 100% sure there is no corruption..
I really hope this is addressed in the next update..
ps I have also laid down a lot of TNT in our current base.. not yet detonated.. so votes better end with a wipe (I also blew up the NPC village next to us ) lol

well that's your mess since you were too impatient

yeah horizon was actually worse than monster, even in single player it was causing nothing but crashing and console spamming.

well that's your mess since you were too impatient

yeah horizon was actually worse than monster, even in single player it was causing nothing but crashing and console spamming.

draze

lol ik that's why I didn't yet pull the trigger (except for those poor homeless villagers.. Ima build an even better village if we don't get a wipe)

I played Horizon for about 1,5 - 2 hours in single player and din't receive a single error.. I guess it depends what items and mods u use while playing..

I'm still secretly hoping we get any mod that has witchery inside
gathering herbs, bits and bobs, then cursing Draze and Piggles with madness, blindness etc. = priceless (also GC.. I wanna build on the Moon!) maybe one day..

Well i can't speak for Witchery but i can definetally say that until the modders of GC pull their fingers out and get it working on a large multi mod platform instead of 4 mods only.. not many will use it much.

Lets take one server at a time right now though